300. SMITH Fortune-3527 (Owen Hugh , Hugh Colin , John Abel , John II , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born in 1926.
Fortune married STANLEY Michael-54989 son of Rt Hon STANLEY Oliver-54990 and Lady VANE-TEMPEST-STEWART Maureen-50611 in 1951. Michael was born in 1921. He died in 1990.
They had the following children:
415 M i STANLEY Oliver-40728 was born in 1952. Oliver married MCMULLEN Bernadette-10883 daughter of MCMULLEN Progenitor-193722 and MNOTKNOWN Miss-193723.
Dr of John M.
310. Baron3 Numburnholme WILSON Charles John-54711 (Marjorie Cecilia WYNN-CARRINGTON , Charles Robert Brn3 Carrington WYNN-CARRINGTON , Robert John (Carrington) Smith , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born on 25 Apr 1904.
He is son1. rootsweb http on 2-6-2005. GEC after 1901, Nunburnholm, p. 65.
Charles married THYNNE Mary Beatrice-245680 daughter of Mqs5 Bath, Earl5 Bath, Visc Weymouth THYNNE Thomas Henry-64702 and MORDAUNT Violet Caroline-64859 on 24 Nov 1927. Mary was born in 1903. She died in 1974.
GEC after 1901, Nunburnholme, p. 65.
Charles and Mary had the following children:
313. Baron6 Carrington, Grenadier Guards, dep-chair ANZ bank. CARRINGTON Peter Alexander Rupert-105767 (Rupert Victor John CARRINGTON , Rupert George WYNN-CARRINGTON , Robert John (Carrington) Smith , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born in 1919. He was christened in 1918 in Active, presumably.
Code-red. thepeerage.com. Re e-mail from David Guyatt, As you saw, the current thrust of this thread of my research is Lord Peter Carrington (full name is Peter Alexander Rupert Smith) and I am focusing on events that involved him in WWII, where he eventually was promoted from Lieutenant to a Major in the Grenadier Guards. I hadn't really been aware of the Smith family's involvement down under but I can now understand why Carrington was, at one time, a deputy chairman of the ANZ bank.
Anyway, if you can point me in the right direction on what you have published about him and his family, I'd be most grateful. Best wishes, David Guyatt
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From: Linda Minor <mailto:lminor@vvm.com>
To: David Guyatt <mailto:hammer@firenet.uk.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:04 PM
Subject: Fw: More Smith
David:
Here's the reply I received from Dan Byrnes.
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From: danbyrnes@mail.nsw.chariot.net.au <mailto:danbyrnes@mail.nsw.chariot.net.au>
To: Linda Minor <mailto:lminor@vvm.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: More Smith
Linda Minor writes: David, The most authoritative source on bankers' genealogies is Dan Byrnes in New South Wales. He has done some work on the Carrington line. Possibly he could help. <http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/merchants/merchants9.htm> <http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/blackheath/thebc17.htm> ----- Original Message ----- From: David Guyatt To: Linda Minor > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Re: More Smith: This is becoming more and more intersting but also more difficult. I had never realised how complex genealogy could be. Colonel Sir Henry Abel Smith married May, Princess of Teck in 1933. Her great grandparent was Albert, prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Prince Consort). So, the Smith banking family appear to be related by marriage to the British Royals on two sides of the family. Colonel Henry was the son of Francis Abel Smith but after that the information starts getting difficult to come by and I don't know where Francis Abel fits into the family line. If this interests you in the slightest (please let me know if it doesn't?), have you any ideas for tracing the family line back to the bankers? Interestingly enougnh I can trace Carrington's line directly, through marriage, to the Baring family (all nice and comfortable, eh). It seems (to Guyatt, ie) that the Smiths were Jewish and were close to the Rothschilds... Having German family active during WWII impinges upon my research very strongly indeed. My guess is that there was a "family" network on both sides of the Channel in "operation" throughout the war. Best wishes, David
Peter married MCCLEAN Iona-105766 daughter of Lt-Colonel Sir MCCLEAN Francis Kennedy-162457 and MNOTKNOWN Miss-162458.
thepeerage.com.
Peter and Iona had the following children:
317. ONSLOW Dorothy Evelyn Augusta-8893 (Florence Coulston GARDNER , Alan (Legge) GARDNER , Charlotte Elizabeth SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ).
thepeerage.com. She is dr2 in GEC, Peerage, Halifax, p. 250.
Dorothy married Earl1 Halifax, Viceroy India WOOD Edward Frederick Lindley-8894 son of Viscount2 Halifax WOOD Charles Lindley Groom Bedchamber-32006 and COURTENAY Agnes Elizabeth-32741 on 21 Sep 1909. Edward was born on 16 Apr 1881.
Code-India. Code-red. GEC, Peerage, Halifax, p. 250. He is son4, surv1.
Edward and Dorothy had the following children:
318. Lady ONSLOW Gwendolyn Florence Mary-121702 (Florence Coulston GARDNER , Alan (Legge) GARDNER , Charlotte Elizabeth SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ).
thepeerage.com.
Gwendolyn married Earl2 Iveagh GUINESS Rupert Edward Cecil Lee-114045 son of Earl1 Iveagh, Baron Iveagh GUINESS Edward Cecil-85063 and GUINESS Adelaide Maria-123598.
Visc Elvedon. thepeerage.com.
Rupert and Gwendolyn had the following children:
321. Gov NSW, Earl7 Beauchamp, Vic Elmley LYGON William-24342 (Mary Catherine STANHOPE , Philip Henry STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born on 20 Feb 1872 in London. He died on 14 Nov 1938 in New York.
Code-Aust. Code-red. On 2-3-2001 re Sydney Mardi Gras publicity, this man loved the homosexual scene in Sydney, his wife sued him for divorce later in UK due to his homosexuality; he later returned to Sydney and loved esp. the lifesavers of Manly as "Greek Adonis". The gay hotel in Oxford Street, Sydney, Beauchamp Hotel is named for him. See lines from R. G. Lang on London Merchant Genealogy. He befriended local writers inc Victor Daley and Henry Lawson, he paid for Lawson to go to England. He is homosexual but married. His own ADB entry dcrom version. Rewrite as in line of Smith Bankers. He is Gov NSW 1899-1902. GEC, Peerage, Beauchamp, p. 43. After "acts unpardonable", he was finally obliged to leave England and settle on the Continent.
William married GROSVENOR Lattice Mary Elizabeth-39634 daughter of Earl Grosvenor GROSVENOR Victor Alexander-39633 and Lady LUMLEY Sibell Mary-50430 on 26 Jul 1902.
Her husband's own ADB entry cdrom version. Her brother is Duke of Westminster.
William and Lattice had the following children:
323. LYGON Susan-38942 (Mary Catherine STANHOPE , Philip Henry STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ).
She is dr2 in Burke's P&B for Dugdale of Merevale. GEC after 1901, Rankeillour, p. 513.
Susan married Brig-General, Sir Bart1 GILMOUR Robert Gordon-36299 son of GILMOUR Progenitor-116562 and GNOTKNOWN Miss-96099. Robert was born in 1857. He died in 1939.
thepeerage.com. Burke's P&B for Dugdale of Merevale. GEC after 1901, Rankeillour, p. 513.
Robert and Susan had the following children:
326. PRIMROSE Sybil Myra Caroline-4840 (Archibald PRIMROSE , Catherine Lucy Wilhemina STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ).
Burke's LG for Grant of Cotes. Update via Rothschild http paf.
Sybil married (1) COTES John-102234 son of COTES Progenitor-73286 and CNOTKNOWN Miss-127750.
Burke's LG for Grant of Cotes.
John and Sybil had the following children:
Sybil married (2) Sir GRANT Charles-74813 son of GRANT Senior findzzzzz-119000 and GNOTKNOWN Miss findzzzz-119359. Charles was born in 1877. He died in 1950.
He is Geneal Sir Charles John Cecil Grant in thepeerage.com.
Charles and Sybil had the following children:
327. wife2 PRIMROSE Margaret-31169 (Archibald PRIMROSE , Catherine Lucy Wilhemina STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born on 1 Jan 1888.
She is dr2. In line of Smiths the bankers. GEC, Peerage, Roxburghe, p. 229; Crewe of Crewe, p. 536.
Margaret married Robert Offley CREWE-MILNES Baron Houghton-31170 son of Richard Monckton MILNES Baron1 Houghton-31171 and CREWE Anabella Hungerford-31172.
GEC, Peerage, Roxburghe, p. 229; Crewe, p. 536.
Robert and Margaret had the following children:
334. Baron5 Leconfield WYNDHAM Edward Scawen-209491 (Constance Evelyn PRIMROSE , Catherine Lucy Wilhemina STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born in 1883. He died in 1967.
Edward married FARQUHAR Gladys Mary-110527 daughter of FARQUHAR James Fitzroy Wilberforce-87960 and CRADOCK-HARTOPP Ada Mary-12792. Gladys died in 1971.
They had the following children:
335. WYNDHAM Maud Evelyn-209512 (Constance Evelyn PRIMROSE , Catherine Lucy Wilhemina STANHOPE , Catherine Lucy SMITH , Robert Of Upton , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) died in 1963.
Maud married Capt YORKE Vincent Wodehouse-209511 son of YORKE John Reginald-209524 and wife2 DE TUYLL Sophia Matilda-209525. Vincent was born in 1869. He died in 1957.
thepeerage.com.
Vincent and Maud had the following children:
337. BONHAM-CARTER John-239779 (Laura Marie NICHOLSON , Anne SMITH , William , Samuel III , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I Mercer Banker , John , William , Progenitor for output ) was born in 1852. He died in 1905.
John married ATKINSON Mary Withers-239780 daughter of ATKINSON Thomas W.-239781 and Of Maryland DALL Maria Louisa-239782. Mary was born in 1857. She died in 1906.
They had the following children:
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