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34. Admiral Sir Bart3 Bromley Robert Howe-49840 (George Smith-Bromley , George (Later Bromley) , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born on 28 Nov 1778. He died in 1857.
He is an only son. thepeerage.com. Burke's LG for Elwes of Colesbourne. Burke's P&B for Bromley-Wilson. His wife ought to be Anne Wilson see thepeerage.com. See Burke's Peerage. See http on Elliott Clan.
Robert married (1) Kelly Clara Fitzroy-48400 daughter of Sir, Lawyer Kelly Fitzroy-49778 and KNotknown Miss-41368 on 19 Sep 1855. Clara died on 16 Jan 1869.
She is an only child in Burke's P&B for Bromley-Wilson.
Robert married (2) wife1 Wilson Anne-115216 daughter of Of Dallam Tower Wilson Daniel-118933 and Harper Sarah-423487. Anne died on 6 Mar 1873.
thepeerage.com. She is dr2. Her fr is Daniel Wilson of Dallam Tower, Westmoreland. Burke's P&B for Bromley-Wilson.
thepeerage.com.
Robert and Anne had the following children:
86 M i MP Bromley Robert-48876 was born on 13 Nov 1813. He died on 30 Dec 1850.
Unmarried. Burke's P&B for Bromley-Wilson.+ 87 M ii Sir Bart4 Bromley Henry-49872 was born on 25 Dec 1816. He died on 21 Sep 1895. + 88 F iii Bromley Mary-57057 died on 25 Jun 1913. 89 M iv Bromley Edward-288977. Edward married Hildyard Edith Mary-288978 daughter of Colonel Coldstream Guards Hildyard Thomas Blackborne Thoroton-495496 and Whyte Anne Catherine-495497.
See http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ re Thoroton Hildyard families. thepeerage.com.90 F v Bromley Elizabeth-39001 died in 1880.
http by Ian Cairns. ADB entry for her husband. See http on Elliott Clan.Elizabeth married Coloniser, Public Servant Elliot Thomas Frederick-38999 son of Gov India, Gov West Indies RT Hon Elliot Hugh-38997 and Wife1 von Kraut Charlotte-38998 in Jan 1869. Thomas was born in 1808. He died in 1880.
Code-Aust. Code-red. See Pike, Dissent, variously and notes for EG Wakefield qv. He becomes agent-general for emigration to Aust in 1837. His ADB entry. See http on Elliott Clan.+ 91 F vi Bromley Caroline-422422 was born in 1818. She died in 1900.
35. Sir. Diplomat, Baron1 Pancefote Pauncefote Julian Smith-54407 (Robert , George (Later Bromley) , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born on 13 Sep 1828 in Munich. He died on 24 May 1902 in Washington.
He is son2, yst son. He is Baron1 Pauncefote of Preston. HIs own DNB item. He is a diplomat. See Leighton-Boyce, p. 21, He is descended from John Smith London Merchant of 9 Great St Helens. He is an old friend of the Dent family, a contact of Brookes of Sarawak by 1847. Noted in Steven Runciman, p. 183. The name Pauncefote is found p. 478 of Hasler circa 1557 for MP Bartholomoew Tate 1532-1601. He had wife had four surv drs. See Leighton-Boyce on Smiths the Bankers, p. 20 See re diplomacy re Suez and Panama canals. GEC, Peerage, Pauncefote, p. 317. They had four surviving drs. He becomes private secretary to Sir Wm Molesworth as sec of state for colonies. If there is a connection in Germany, was something done through Schroders, possibly? His own DNB entry.
Julian married Cubitt Selina Fitzgerald-54406 daughter of Major Cubitt William-48396 and CNotknown Miss-48397 on 14 Sep 1859.
Her husband's DNB entry.
Julian and Selina had the following children:
37. wife2 Manning Miss-116727 (Elizabeth Bessie Smith , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ).
See also Pollock on Wilberforce, table. She is wife2 of John Savage. SR Cope on Bird/Savage, p. 203.
Miss married South Carolina Savage John-51355 son of Savage Progenitor-15415 and SUnknown Miss-17718 in 1778. John was christened in 1780 in active.
He is of Charles Town, South Carolina and had settled in London. His first wife had died; so he married Ms Manning. SR Cope on Bird/Savage, p. 203.
John and Miss had the following children:
93 M i Of Bird, Savage Savage Benjamin-51358 was born in 1750. He was christened in 1780 in active.
He is an only son. See lines in Pollock on Wilberforce, table. S. R. Cope on Bird/Savage, p. 203.
38. Smith Mary-15790 (Abel III , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born in 1778. She died in 1861.
http://www.rootsandleaves.com.family/Knight/FullDescendancy.html Pollock on Wilberforce, table. She had two sons and five drs.
Mary married Rev MP Sargent John IV-511520 son of Sargent John III-292864 and Bettesworth Charlotte-511516 in 1804. John was born in 1780. He died in 1833.
on 26-8-2010 re parents http://www.rootsandleaves.com.family/Knight/FullDescendancy.html He also in Newsome on Cardinal Manning has drs Mary m to Henry Wilberforce and Sophia m to George Dudley Rdyer. Pollock on Wilberforce, table.
John and Mary had the following children:
94 F i Sargent Mary-25119.
Pollock on Wilberforce, table.Mary married Wilberforce Henry-25118 son of Abolitonist, Clapham Sect, AACo investor Wilberforce William-5722 and Clapham sect member Spooner Barbara Anne-5723 in 1834. Henry was born in 1807. He died in 1873.
Pollock on Wilberforce, table.95 F ii Sargent Caroline-40075.
Pollock on Wilberforce, table.Caroline married Cardinal Manning Henry Edward-39883 son of AACo investor, MP, Gov BofE, slaver, West Indies merchant Manning William-55117 and Wife2 Hunter Mary-59505. Henry was born on 15 Jul 1808.
He is yst son. His fr is West India merchant rich on slave-grown produce, p. 43 Eric Williams, Capitalism and Slavery. There is a Wilfrid Ward in Newsome p. 29 who knew the later Cardinal. He is friends ith Christopher Wordsworth later a Bishop of Lincoln. He also has brother William died young at 19 and Frederick. He has a nephew, Ignatius Ryder. Cf., David Newsome, The Convert Cardinals: John Henry Newman and Henry Edward Manning. London, John Murray, 1993. He is a cardinal in Pollock on
Wilberforce, table.96 F iii Sargent Sophia-334748. Sophia married Rev Ryder George Dudley-334749 son of Bishop of Lichfield Ryder Senior-334750 and RNotknown Miss-334751.
He is son2.+ 97 F iv wife1 Sargent Emily-27332 died in 1818. 98 M v Sargent John Garton-137331.
Unmarried.99 M vi Sargent Henry Martyn-511798 died in 1836.
Unmarried.100 F vii Sargent Elizabeth Charlotte-35993.
39. MP, AACo Smith George Robert-38980 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born on 2 May 1793 in ,Banker. He was christened in ,High Sheriff. He died in 1869.
stirnet file4 on Smith. He is with Smith's Payne in London. Pemberton lists of AACo investors. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park.
George married Maberley Jane-38979 daughter of Maberley John Maberly-114929 and MNotknown Miss-67465 on 4 May 1818. Jane died on 10 Oct 1879.
Is she dr of John the army contractor qv? Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park.
George and Jane had the following children:
40. Magniac-Smith China house, of Blendon Hall Smith Oswald-57329 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born on 7 Jul 1794. He died in 1863.
Code-red. He is son2. thepeerage.com. Royal genealogy webpages He is of Blendon Hall, Kent. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. See one line going to Burke's P&B for Cooper formerly of Sydney. For this man see Vol. 1 of Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. Burke's LG for Streatfeild. Is he the same as the Oswald Smith of Blendon Hall of Jardine Matheson? GEC, Peerage, Strathmore, p. 402. Since he is of Blendon Hall he might be associated with line of present queen mother, see GEC, Strathmore. See W. E. Cheong, Jardine/M, p. 243. This man has a brother, one TC. Table, Leighton-Boyce, Smiths the bankers. stirnet file4 on Smith.
Oswald married Hodgson Henrietta Mildred-37523 daughter of Rev Hodgson Robert-42756 and Tucker Mary-55586 in 1824.
thepeerage.com. Royal genealogy webpages Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. GEC, Peerage, Strathmore, p. 402.
Oswald and Henrietta had the following children:
+ 102 M i Smith Oswald Augustus Oswald II-20491 was born on 21 Oct 1826. He died on 24 Aug 1902. + 103 F ii Smith Frances Dora-25168 was born on 29 Jul 1832. She died on 5 Feb 1922. + 104 M iii Smith Eric Carrington-42721 was born on 25 May 1828. He died on 26 Apr 1906. + 105 F iv Smith Marion Henrietta-36187 was born in 1835. She died in 1897. + 106 F v Smith Isabella Isabel-20419 was born in 1826. She died in 1907.
43. Smith Frances Mary-326901 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) died in 1867.
stirnet file4 on Smith.
Frances married Venerable Master Robert Mosley-326900 son of Rev Master Streynsham-45534 and Mosley Elizabeth-326899. Robert was born in 1790 in Circa.
He is archdeacon of Manchester in stirnet file4 on Smith.
Robert and Frances had the following children:
107 M i Master John Henry-326906 was born in 1825. + 108 F ii Master Augusta Sybella-369630.
45. Of Ferriby Smith Edmund-322380 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born in 1809. He died in 1873.
He is of EI Civil Service. In 1846 he joined the Hull branch of Samuel Smith and Brothers. stirnet file4 on Smith. He is son7 by wife2. See Burke's P&B for Lushington. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. Update per emailer John Elverson on 3-3-2008.
Edmund married Lushington Hester-9449 daughter of Lushington Charles May-25167 and Ansell Catherine-13730 in Feb 1836. Hester was born in 1816. She died in 1888.
She is dr1. stirnet file4 on Smith. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. Update per emailer John Elverson on 3-3-2008.
Edmund and Hester had the following children:
49. Smith Catherine-239155 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) died in 1870.
stirnet file4 on Smith. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park.
Catherine married Wigram Edward-51716 son of Sir Bart1, Loyd's name, whaler, convict contractor Fitzwigram Robert-42680 and Wife2 Watts Eleanor-108063 on 10 Aug 1830. Edward died on 3 Dec 1870.
He is son13. Burke's Peerage for Wigram. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park. stirnet file4 on Smith.
Edward and Catherine had the following children:
+ 111 M i Rev Wigram Frederic Edward-51718 died on 10 Mar 1897.
50. Smith Sophia Sarah-334289 (George , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) died in 1883.
stirnet file4 on Smith. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park.
Sophia married Rev Wigram William Pitt-117091 son of Sir Bart1, Loyd's name, whaler, convict contractor Fitzwigram Robert-42680 and Wife2 Watts Eleanor-108063 on 13 Nov 1837. William died in 1870.
stirnet file4 on Smith. He is son11. Burke's Peerage for Wigram. Burke's LG for Smith of Shottesbrooke Park.
William and Sophia had the following children:
54. AACO, NZo, Opium trade, Banker, MP Smith John Abel-3651 (John II , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born in 1801. He died on 15 Sep 1879.
Code-red. He is son1 by wife2. In Welsh, History of Hong Kong, p. 90 he acts for Jardine-Matheson as MP/banker. He invests in AACo in Pemberton. Director of NZCo on Bloomfield on Wakefield. He is on 1834 c/tee London for female emigration. Cassis City bankers sees him die in 1871. He is a considerable personality, a partner of Smith-Payne-Smiths, acquired land on vast scale, MP for Hertfordshire 1835-1847. Tried to help Lionel Rothschild sit in Parlt, had varied interests in Aust, NZ and Far East, led him to found Smith Magniac and Co., foreunners of Matheson and Co., the London agents of Jardine/Matheson of Hong Kong, he is partner in Smiths from 1834-1845, opted to leave Smith and stay with Magniac, and ends ruined for unclear reasons. See Atchison PhD thesis, he is first chairman of the Aust Agric Co. If he is MP for Chichester and an old friend of Angela Burdett Coutts, then he is the one (See Runciman on the White Rajahs, p. 148), who when James the Rajah was "toying" with an idea of putting Sarawak under the protection of Belgium, and was negotiating with the heir to the Belgian throne, Duke of Brabant/Leopold II, Burdett Coutts thought the idea silly, the problem taken up by John Abel Smith, MP for Chichester, arranged that the Gov of Singapore, Colonel Cavanagh, should visit Kuching and send in a report on the feasibility of the protectorate. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 1, p. 353. Listed in Adams, Fatal Necessity, on NZCo. founder of Smith/Magniac.
He is chief partner of Smith /Payne /Smiths from 1835-1845; See Keswick on Jardines, pp. 24ff. He is a partner of Hollingworth Magniac, qv. On "free tea" by 1837 see Kynaston, City of London, p. 112. See notes to John Pirie, qv. See Broeze article, Imperial Axis in Push from the Bush. See W. E. Cheong, Jardine/M, p. 243 and p. 258, Note 20, which has that in March 1840 when Jardine was back in London, John Abel Smith asked him to leave the China house and join Magniac and Smith, Jardine told Matheson this is the first he ever knew of them wishing him, Jardine, to join Magniac and Smith.
To make other connections, see S. B. Singh on India Agency Houses, and Greenburg on the same topic, also Leighton-Boyce re Smiths the Bankers. Note that Chand cited elsewhere claimed that about 1760, money taken from Bengal fuelled take off of the Industrial Revolution in England, and that some of this claim can be attached to the career of the merchant bank in London, set up in 1758, Smith, Payne and Smiths, Payne here being John Payne qv the outgoing chairman of the East India Company, in a timeframe treated by Lucy Sutherland (EICo in C18th Politics) re the squabble between new EICo chairman Laurence Sulivan and Clive of India. From 1769, Sulivan was involved with his Madras partners in developing links with "Malaysia", see titles on career of founder of Penang, Francis Light (whose son later surveyed Adelaide Sth Australia). This man's ancestors in Nottingham had been pro-Cromwell and were later rewarded. This man see Smiths the Bankers, p. 272 assisted Baron Lionel de Rothschild into the House of Commons in July 1858. His family did not appreciate his involvements in far eastern trade, as he was a founder partner of Smith, Magniac and Co, East India and China merchants, which had premises next door to the family bank. He had a door connecting both premises to avoid going out onto Lombard Street. He was with the family bank for only 10 years. see Smith the Bankers p. 272 re his interest as a founder partner in Smith, Magniac and Co, the forerunner of Jardine, Matheson and Co. etc. See Broeze on Brooks, p. 32ff. See also title on Smiths the bankers. Pemberton, London Connection, p. 389. He is of 37 Chester Square, London. Brooks's. eldest son of J. Smith Esq, Banker of Blendon Hall, Kent, who sat for Buckinghamshire in 1832; by second wife, dr of Lt-Col Tucker. He was a friend of Baron Lionel de Rothschild, the Rothschilds had opened an account with Rothschilds (?, or Smith, Payne and Smiths) soon after the Battle of Waterloo. His temperament was unsuited to the family bank. He is said to have dissipated much of a considerable patrimony on the fringes of empire, in the east, in the Antipodes, in railway and colonial development. He had interests in Aust and NZ, he was a founder partner in Smith, Magniac and Co, the forerunners of Jardine Matheson and Co. He left the family bank in 1845. Book on Smiths the Bankers. Stenton, Vol. 1, Brit Partls, pp. 352-353. He was with the family bank for only 10 years. see Smith the Bankers p. 272 re his interest as a founder partner in Smith, Magniac and Co, the forerunner of Jardine, Matheson and Co. etc. See Broeze on Brooks, p. 32ff. See also title on Smiths the bankers. Pemberton, London Connection, p. 389.
John married Clarke-Jervoise Anne-15468 daughter of Sir Bart1 Clarke-Jervoise Samuel-38518 and Griffenhoofe Elizabeth-38519. Anne died in 1858.
See Clarke-Jervoise in Namier/Brooke, Vol. 2, p. 216. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 2, p. 353.
John and Anne had the following children:
+ 114 M i Gov BofE Smith Hugh Colin-16909 was born in 1836. He died on 8 Mar 1910. + 115 M ii Banker Smith Dudley Robert Jardines-41765 was born in 1830. He died in 1897. + 116 M iii MP Banker Smith Jervoise-43131 was born in 1828. He died in 1884.
55. Banker, Dir EICo, MP. AACo, Canada Co Smith Martin Tucker-80087 (John II , Abel II , Abel I , Thomas I , John , William , William ) was born in 1803. He died in 1880.
Code-red. He is son2. See line from Annesley qv. http dat67.html - Cassis, City bankers, p. 222. Dr in Burke's P&B for Dalrymple-White. Extra as in line of Ridley bankers. His part of the family bankers is at Hull being Samuel Smith, Bros and Co, His son's Gerard's ADB entry. Lecouteur, 1825 lists of Canada Co directors. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 1, p. 353. Pemberton, London Connection re AACo, p. 389. Leighton-Boyce, table, Smiths the Bankers, p. 273 this man is a politican, banker, a senior partner in Smith, Payne and Smiths and a director of EICo. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 1, p . 353. Cassis, City bankers, p. 222. Dr in Burke's P&B for Dalrymple-White. Extra as in line of Ridley bankers. His part of the family bankers is at Hull being Samuel Smith, Bros and Co. His son's Gerard's ADB entry. See http://www.william1.co.uk/w170.htm
Martin married Ridley Louisa-15470 daughter of Sir Bart3 MP Banker AACo investor Ridley Matthew White-16010 and Hawkins Laura-12859 in 1831. Louisa died in 1894.
She is dr3. See line from Annesley. Cassis City bankers has her as dr of Sir R. Ridley Bart3. See more family in Burke's LG for Smith of Midhurst. Dr of Rev Henry Richard. Her son Gerard's ADB entry. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 1, p. 353. Peter Western http update.
Martin and Louisa had the following children:
+ 117 M i Banker Smith Martin Ridley-15471 was born in 1833. He died in 1908. + 118 M ii Colonel Sir, Gov WA Smith Gerard-15472 was born on 12 Dec 1839. He died on 28 Oct 1920. 119 F iii wife1 Smith Louisa Mary-60453.
Burke's P&B for Dalrymple-White.Louisa married General Sir KCB White Henry Dalrymple-107723 son of Vice-Admiral RN White John Chambers-469726 and wife2 Dalrymple Charlotte Elizabeth-24827 on 12 May 1858.
http on Descendants of O'Challum by Doug McCallum. Burke's P&B for Dalrymple-White.120 M iv Smith Francis-22001.
He is yr son. Cassis, City Bankers, p. 222.+ 121 F v Smith Elisabeth-17965. 122 M vi JP Smith Francis Nicholas-240946 was born in 1838. 123 M vii Lt Smith Charles Ridley-240947 was born in 1843. 124 F viii Smith Helen-403639 was born in 1836. She died in 1928.
See http://www.william1.co.uk/w170.htmHelen married Major-General Sir Gascoigne William-403638 son of General Gascoigne Ernest Frederick-403615 and Smith Caroline Leigh-58424. William was born in 1844. He died in 1926.
See http://www.william1.co.uk/w170.htm
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